Look what my 500 has got......

[wreckmaster]

Does your 500 come with this option: Seat Heaters.
I posted a thread about seat heaters on another forum some months back, but noone seemed to have heard about it. What about you guys, did anyone of you order seat heaters for your 500? If not, was it an option at all?
In Norway they come standard on all models of the 500.....

[pittiplatsch]

Here in Italy seat heaters are not available. I think it's a special idea of the Norwegian Fiat Sales Company.

Actually it's much colder in Norway... lol

[minime911]

Hi:

Most of the car manufacturers have special "Nordic" packages with seat heaters, a bigger alternator and a stronger battery. They quite often also have a hot climate package with a more powerful air conditioning system.

Usually these packages are regional specific and you don't need to order them specially.

Sometimes there are also engine sizes and power option availability regionally dependent.
There are countries where driving tax classes force the manufacturer to limit the power output in order to keep the vehicle in a competitive and reasonable taxation class. (Belgium for example).
There are quite often price differences for the same car from one country to another and this is due to the additional taxation for luxury, foreign product, well, government is quite inventive to pull money out of the pockets of car owners and the manufacturers are not offering the same options as standard for the same car at different places which makes a clear price comparison quite difficult.
This is often also regional customer driven. Years ago most cars sold in Germany had as standard equipment ABS and airbags, as German customers are safety freaks.
Car radio, air conditioning, electrical window winders, remote central door locking and other comfort was optional.
French drivers however were served with all of these comfort options and had to order the safety features separately for the same car.

So be aware if you order a car from a different region than yours.
Compare all of the options and all of the equipment, also the ones that you consider standard!!!!

Greetings:

minime911

[.Lefteris.]

Who needs them... just a few fresh hot farts and you've done the job (and for free) biggrin2

http://trond.weblogg.no/moro/images/fart_1129418373.jpg

[minime911]

Who needs them... just a few fresh hot farts and you've done the job (and for free) biggrin2

http://trond.weblogg.no/moro/images/fart_1129418373.jpg

Well,
The own ones are OK but if you have passengers....biggrin2

minime911

[.Lefteris.]

Well,
The own ones are OK but if you have passengers....biggrin2

minime911

Let them do the same and be sure that you have a few of those on board ! :D

http://www.approvedgasmasks.com/images/evo5000-mask.jpg

[minime911]

One for the diver is enough.
The burning in the eyes makes it so difficult to see the street.lol

minime911

[wreckmaster]

Hi:

Most of the car manufacturers have special "Nordic" packages with seat heaters, a bigger alternator and a stronger battery. They quite often also have a hot climate package with a more powerful air conditioning system.

Usually these packages are regional specific and you don't need to order them specially.

Sometimes there are also engine sizes and power option availability regionally dependent.
There are countries where driving tax classes force the manufacturer to limit the power output in order to keep the vehicle in a competitive and reasonable taxation class. (Belgium for example).
There are quite often price differences for the same car from one country to another and this is due to the additional taxation for luxury, foreign product,
well, government is quite inventive to pull money out of the pockets of car owners and the manufacturers are not offering the same options as standard for the same car at different places which makes a clear price comparison quite difficult.
This is often also regional customer driven. Years ago most cars sold in Germany had as standard equipment ABS and airbags, as German customers are safety freaks.
Car radio, air conditioning, electrical window winders, remote central door locking and other comfort was optional.
French drivers however were served with all of these comfort options and had to order the safety features separately for the same car.

So be aware if you order a car from a different region than yours.
Compare all of the options and all of the equipment, also the ones that you consider standard!!!!

Greetings:

minime911



Thanks for useful info minime911:) Besides the stuff you wrote I think we have better rust protection here. But the heater in the 500 is :infuriato::infuriato: Not made for cold conditions at all.... I have had classic cars with better heaters:mad:

[ewandougie]

Its definatly a nordic thing, We have a V70 @ home and it came with them as standard. They are amaizing to have in the winter lol I never knew you could get them on a small city car like the 500

[minime911]

Hi,
I think today there is no difference in rust protection anymore as this is applied to the bare body before they know what is going to happen with that car once it is finished, neither who is going to drive it where.
Actually cars are rusting less in your area as with the very low temperatures there is usually nearly no humidity in the air which can creep into the last corner of your car.
Besides this in the Nordic countries most people leave their car outside or they have an open carport so the car stay well vented and there is very little condensation.
Last but not least you are throwing only very little quantities of salt on the street when there is ice but some kind of gravel/ salt mix where the salt is just used to keep the gravel sticking to the floor. Anyway salt has no effect anymore once the temperatures are below -7 degrees and people in your area have learned to drive and behave on slippery roads.
Probably all those who haven't are not alive anymore.biggrin2
Negative point on this, is that you have at least one broken windshield per season with the gravel that flies around and the hood of your car looks after a few years like sandblasted.

Salt on your car gets most aggressive when there is humidity with it at a temperature of about 20 to 25 degrees. So, most people that think doing the best for their car, parking it in a well heated garage over night are totally wrong!!

Over here they put tons of salt starting 0 degrees outside. It looks that they get paid on quantity.:(
That's why cars were rusting faster in our area.
In northern Sweden there are still plenty of Volvo Amazon and old Saab's used as daily drivers as over here they have rotten away.:(
Today rust is not such a big problem anymore and usually there is no rust in the first 10 years of usage unless there is a major manufacturing problem.
After these +-10 years you will see the weak points and those are usually the same on all of the cars of one model.

Greetings:

minime911

[wreckmaster]

Hi,
I think today there is no difference in rust protection anymore as this is applied to the bare body before they know what is going to happen with that car once it is finished, neither who is going to drive it where.
Actually cars are rusting less in your area as with the very low temperatures there is usually nearly no humidity in the air which can creep into the last corner of your car.
Besides this in the Nordic countries most people leave their car outside or they have an open carport so the car stay well vented and there is very little condensation.
Last but not least you are throwing only very little quantities of salt on the street when there is ice but some kind of gravel/ salt mix where the salt is just used to keep the gravel sticking to the floor. Anyway salt has no effect anymore once the temperatures are below -7 degrees and people in your area have learned to drive and behave on slippery roads.
Probably all those who haven't are not alive anymore.biggrin2
Negative point on this, is that you have at least one broken windshield per season with the gravel that flies around and the hood of your car looks after a few years like sandblasted.

Salt on your car gets most aggressive when there is humidity with it at a temperature of about 20 to 25 degrees. So, most people that think doing the best for their car, parking it in a well heated garage over night are totally wrong!!

Over here they put tons of salt starting 0 degrees outside. It looks that they get paid on quantity.:(
That's why cars were rusting faster in our area.
In northern Sweden there are still plenty of Volvo Amazon and old Saab's used as daily drivers as over here they have rotten away.:(
Today rust is not such a big problem anymore and usually there is no rust in the first 10 years of usage unless there is a major manufacturing problem.
After these +-10 years you will see the weak points and those are usually the same on all of the cars of one model.

Greetings:

minime911



Well I guess we have pretty much the same conditions as you. I live in the most southern part of Norway and it`s rarely colder than -10C here. We had a period a couple of weeks ago with tempratures dropping to -15 to -18 but that is rare. And they use a lot of salt on the roads. Everyday through the winter. Cars here are rusty, just like southern Sweden and Denmark. Cars just 5-6-7 years old are getting really rusted:mad:
You are absolutely right about windshields and sandblasted hoods:(:(

[VilleV]

Hi,
In northern Sweden there are still plenty of Volvo Amazon and old Saab's used as daily drivers as over here they have rotten away.:(

Greetings:

minime911

Actually it is considerd a plus here, if the car you´re buying is from Lapland. It´s a well known fact that cars from northern areas have much less rust on them, because temperature stays under 0 longer time every year, and also because they dont use so much salt on roads in there.