New family car.

[wreckmaster]

I am considering changing my family car this summer. As I guess you know I have a 2005 Astra with 75000 km on the clock. My original plan was to change it next summer when it is 5 years old, but since I dont have any debt on my cars anymore I am considering this year instead....

What I am looking at is the Insignia( car of the year 2009:)) and the Avensis:eek:. It has got to be wagon or hatch back.


Do you have any ideas for other similar size and price range cars I could look at? Fiat is not an option:mad:
And it must be possible to tow at least 1300 kg:cool:

Insignia: http://www.opel.no/content_data/GME/019/NO/no/GBPNO/microsite/insignialaunch/index.html
Avensis: http://www.nyeavensis.no/

[VilleV]

I would definitely go for a Skoda Suberb in that price class! Altough it´s not actually a hatch, but it´s got the dual-function tailgate, which practically makes it a hatch. And it´s got rear legroom like no other car in it´s class! Apparently even the basic 1.4 tsi with 122 hp is a very good car!

I would never buy a toyota, I think they are just so boring! The Insignia is a good looking car though. But these are always matters of taste...

[.Lefteris.]

Insignia :icon_thumright:

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-shows/2008-paris-show-the-cars-i-want-to-see/10660856+cr1+re0+ar1/opel-insignia-sports-tourer.jpg

[wreckmaster]

I would definitely go for a Skoda Suberb in that price class! Altough it´s not actually a hatch, but it´s got the dual-function tailgate, which practically makes it a hatch. And it´s got rear legroom like no other car in it´s class! Apparently even the basic 1.4 tsi with 122 hp is a very good car!

I would never buy a toyota, I think they are just so boring! The Insignia is a good looking car though. But these are always matters of taste...

I have tought of the Superb, but I have this thing against V.A.G products(dont know why really:)).
I totally agree that most Toyotas are boring, but I rather like the new Avensis( and no other car brand can match the quality:)).
I am kind of falling towards the Insignia, because it is a little bit cheaper than the Avensis and the service at my dealer is just excellent. Had my astra at the garage today to change the ac compressor( guarantee job), so I asked them if they could have a look at the abs sensors at same time. This is because the light has been a bit on and off lately. They looked at it and cleaned the connections to the sensors, and it didnt cost me a dime:icon_thumleft:

Time will show what I buy, and when I buy it:)

[VilleV]

I think that Skoda is by far the best product from vag family. Built by proud czechs. I´m not a fan of VW or Audi either, and I´ve had such bad experiences with Seat that I wouldn´t by one of those again. That Superb is a good enough looking car in my opinion and if it´s space you are after, it´s definitely got that. But then again, the Insignia is a very good lookin car too, altough not as roomy as the Skoda.

I´ve also seen a few of those new Avensis´ around and about. It´s ok from the outside but pretty much the same as the previous model from the inside. Same buttons and displays and so on. I sometimes (unfortunately) have to drive the previous Avensis at work and it is absolutely hidious to drive! When you go over 80km/h it doesn´t go in a straight line for a one second! And it it impossible to sit comfortably in it´s seats! It may well be the worst car to drive that I´ve ever driven, well except for corolla from the early -90´s. And in my job I´ve driven quite a few models and I´ve also driven them quite hard...;)

Btw. Mondeo is very good car too. But I think it´s a little bit more expencive than these other cars mentioned before.

[VilleV]

Of the cars mentioned in this thread the Mondeo is certainly the best one to drive. But I´ve only driven the diesel version and they are more expensive.

[OrangeSport]

I've always been very impressed by Moneos when I've driven them. Have never tried an Insignia, but I truly, truly, truly dislike Vectras (have driven many miles in verious engine / trim combinations) & that has tainted my view of the Insignia..

[VilleV]

Apparently the Insignia is supposed to be completely different from the Vectra but these attitudes towards Opel (Vauxhall in Britain) run deep. In every test I´ve read about the Insignia it´s getting compliments, but it´s still losing in comparison to Mondeo and even Passat, which is quite an old model. I have to say, that the previous Mondeo was even better to drive than the current model, but this new model is a much bigger car in every dimension.

[VilleV]

The new Superb has just won the winter car of the year test in finnish car magazine Tekniikan maailma (teknikens värld, World of tehcnics, biggest car magazine here)! Only negative in the Superb was that road noice was a bit too high with the winter tires that the test car had on it.
In this same comparison test Fiat 500 came last:eek:, so it´s not a very good winter car they say. Biggest drawbacks were poor heater and the tendency to spin unexpectedly even in the hands of experienced driver when the road surface was slipery.:icon_rolleyes: Alltough this is cured by esp, but they were driving a car without it.

Well, we´ve discussed this heater thing with wrecmaster before, so it was no news to me. And most people here use auxiliary heaters to heat their cars before start anyway. Otherwise I think my car is warm enough. And I think it was no news either, that the 500is a little tricky if you go over a bump in a corner when it´s slippery. That´s why I got mine with esp.

[wreckmaster]

Here it comes standard with ESP. On all models (pop/sport/lounge). Cannot buy the 500 without.:icon_thumright:

[VilleV]

That´s how it should be! Here it is optional extra in 1.2 and multijet, but standard in 1.4 models. Cost is 500 euros, which is not bad in my opinion as you also get the hill holder and emergency braking assitant included in that price.

[wreckmaster]

Have been at the Opel dealer today looking at the Insignia and got some prices and brochures... It looks good for sure:cool::cool: Going back on monday for a test drive on a 2.0l CDTI 110hp hatchback. I think actually the hatchback looks better than the wagon..... It`s kind of a Jaguar look to that rear endlol

[.Lefteris.]

Have been at the Opel dealer today looking at the Insignia and got some prices and brochures... It looks good for sure:cool::cool: Going back on monday for a test drive on a 2.0l CDTI 110hp hatchback. I think actually the hatchback looks better than the wagon..... It`s kind of a Jaguar look to that rear endlol
:icon_thumright:

[wreckmaster]

I have the Insignia now for a overnight test nowbiggrin2biggrin2
It is a dream to drive:):) With navi and all the right extras(except leather).
The torque and feeling of power that diesel engine gives is amazing....
And it is only a 110 hp engine....
Hmmm....I think I want one but it is a bit expensive 344000kr:mad: thats 39450EUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:

[.Lefteris.]

you only get what you pay for! ;)

[wreckmaster]

That is truelol Do you know what a 2l Insignia diesel starts at in Greece?

[ewandougie]

Hmm my Dad has just brought another Volvo V70, whats interesting is that this one is "uncrashable" it has some bizzare sonar on the front that applies the brakes if it detects a collision.

[wreckmaster]

Hmm my Dad has just brought another Volvo V70, whats interesting is that this one is "uncrashable" it has some bizzare sonar on the front that applies the brakes if it detects a collision.

I thin I can get this on the Insignia too, but it costs. A lotlol

[.Lefteris.]

That is truelol Do you know what a 2l Insignia diesel starts at in Greece?
no price list online! :(

[.Lefteris.]

Hmm my Dad has just brought another Volvo V70, whats interesting is that this one is "uncrashable" it has some bizzare sonar on the front that applies the brakes if it detects a collision.
uncrashable will be if the other car has the same system also and the speed is veeeeery low! ;)

[ewandougie]

I know lol

[wreckmaster]

Well it will not be a Insignia hatch back.....My wife hated backing up with it...
So I guess we just have to wait to the end of march and have a look at the estate, which also looks pretty good:cool: My wife tought the hatchback had to little rear window(narrow) and way to small mirrors. But I know that the 2.0l CDTI engine is the one I want....just loved it really(and I have always hated diesels:mad: ).

[Cadbury]

Her indoors has to be obeyed :icon_thumleft:

And so it should be... 'girl' power lol ;)

[wreckmaster]

Her indoors has to be obeyed :icon_thumleft:

And so it should be... 'girl' power lol ;)

lollol Well I am the boss of the family, and I`ve got my wifes approval to say it.....:icon_rolleyes:

lollol

[.Lefteris.]

lollol Well I am the boss of the family, and I`ve got my wifes approval to say it.....:icon_rolleyes:

lollol
lol lol lol

[Cadbury]

You always know when a man knows what he is talking about......

He begins the sentence..... 'my wife says....' lol

[wreckmaster]

You always know when a man knows what he is talking about......

He begins the sentence..... 'my wife says....' lol

lollol

[.Lefteris.]

lol

[pittiplatsch]

That is truelol Do you know what a 2l Insignia diesel starts at in Greece?

In Italy the price for 2.0 CDTI with 130hp starts at 27000€.

[wreckmaster]

I still have not bought a new car, but I am looking around. My Astra is now over 4 years old and has got nearly a 100 000 km`s on it, but I cant decide really what to buy. So the other day me and my better half was talking about what we really needed....Do we really need a bigger car than the Astra? Probably no..... Do we need a car that will cost us between 320 000 and 350 000 kr`s (Eur: 37000 - 40500)? Probably no..... So what is the options? We need a large boot and we need 4 doors, with enough room in the backseat for 2 children seats. I really want an Alfa, but cant afford one. So then I suddenly came to think about the second best... The Fiat Bravo! It has got a 400l boot( almost the same as my Astra) it has got 4 doors, some great diesel engines, can tow way more caravan than my Astra does and it looks like it is related to an Alfa( which it is offcourselol ) And the best thing it costs only 229 000kr( Eur:26500)!!!! What do you think guys? I still have to sell my Astra first toughlol

http://www.fiat.com/cgi-bin/pbrand.dll/FIAT_COM/showroom/showroom.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0516272458.125171250 7@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccjadeidididlecefecejgdfkhdfjh.0&categoryOID=-1073763034


Does anyone of you have any experience with the Bravo?

[.Lefteris.]

VW Passat ?

[wreckmaster]

VW Passat ?

Passat is a nice car, but it is in the same price range as the Insignia and I am not really into VW! Dont know why really, just a matter of taste I guesslol I easily save a 100 grand buying a Bravo:icon_thumleft:
Been at the Fiat dealer today and the Bravo is surprisingly spaceful for a car it`s size. Larger boot than a Golf and much nicer design:icon_thumright: Looks pretty much like a Alfa light:p Well anyway I have to testdrive it and sell my Astra before I can buy one. And before I can sell the Astra it needs a service an EU check ( norwegian MOT).

[.Lefteris.]

The new Bravo looks more like an Alfa, I like it a lot! ;)

[Cadbury]

Have you been on the FiatUK site. It has a 'configurator' so you can design a vehicle in what spec you would like... just to give you some idea.

When bringing a vehicle from abroad to the UK, you can keep it for a year before you have to apply for 'road tax'. Would that apply in reverse? Mean changing your car every year but could be cheaper option.

[wreckmaster]

Yes I have been on FiatUK since you cant tailor a Fiat in Norway anymore. Here you can just choose between 1,6 diesel and 1,9 diesel and choose color. The only options where with or without B&M and rubber matts:( They even had to special order the towbar and fit it at the dealership. But I like the Bravo, it has got alot of standards and looks kinda cool in a nice italian waylol If I should import a car I have to pay all taxes on it before I can use it:(

I think I will buy a Bravo when my Astra is gone:icon_thumleft:

[wreckmaster]

I have a new Bravo for testing overnight today. It is a 1,6diesel with 90hp in a ugly greyish kinda brown color. It is a really nice ride, and it feels like its got a lot more horses than 90... It also got a lovely 6 gear transmission:icon_thumleft: If I decide on buying one I belive it will be a great car to tow my caravan with:) Whats holding me back is that I want it in red, but red is not in stock so I will have to wait three months for one:eek: They have it in black which also is a nice color, but there is something italian about red that I want. So the decission is to buy or not to buy and if I should buy should I wait for three months for a red one or should I just go for a black one that I can have in three weeks:confused:

[Cadbury]

Is your present family car in working order ? If so.... wait the three months for the red... you will only regret it later !

[wreckmaster]

My Astra is going in to the Fiat dealer for trade in valuation next monday, but I told the dealer that if he gave me 100 000++ for the Astra I will buy a Bravo:icon_thumleft: Have to wait three months tough, since I decided on a red one with roof spoiler, tinted windows, tow bar and B&M. Probably 1,6 D!

[Plum Crazy]

The Bravo looks great! I couldn't tell how much interior room it has from the pictures though. :icon_thumleft:

[wreckmaster]

The Bravo looks great! I couldn't tell how much interior room it has from the pictures though. :icon_thumleft:

The size of the Bravo is pretty much similar to a Golf, but the Bravo has a larger boot:icon_thumleft:

Rumors says that the Bravo will come to the US as Chrysler Nassau:)

[wreckmaster]

Today I did it!!!! I now have a brand new Fiat Bravo 1,6multijet PurO2 on order:icon_thumleft: It`s Maranello red and ordered with B&M, roof spoiler, darkened windows, 16" alloys and black interiour:icon_thumright: With delivery estimated in late nov or early dec!!! Also got a good price for my Astra:)

[Cadbury]

:congrats:

Now the wait for the pictures !

You are extremely lucky... the wait for a 500 in the UK is FOUR MONTHS

[.Lefteris.]

:congrats: :super:

[wreckmaster]

Thank you guys:icon_thumleft: But dont be afraid that I will stay away from the forum, because the new Bravo is family transportation while the 500 will always be my toy:icon_thumright:

Maybe a Bravo forum would be something Lefterislol

[Animo]

Today I did it!!!! I now have a brand new Fiat Bravo 1,6multijet PurO2 on order:icon_thumleft: It`s Maranello red and ordered with B&M, roof spoiler, darkened windows, 16" alloys and black interiour:icon_thumright: With delivery estimated in late nov or early dec!!! Also got a good price for my Astra:)

Lovely!

Want some pics though. :icon_thumleft:

[wreckmaster]

Lovely!

Want some pics though. :icon_thumleft:

Pics will be posted as soon as I`ve got the new car:icon_thumleft: About dec 1th:(

[VilleV]

Congrats Wrecks! Great choice with the Bravo! Its a really good looking car that stands out from the golfs, astras and focuses!:icon_thumleft:

[wreckmaster]

Congrats Wrecks! Great choice with the Bravo! Its a really good looking car that stands out from the golfs, astras and focuses!:icon_thumleft:


Thank you Ville:)

[wreckmaster]

They called me from the dealer today:icon_thumleft: My Bravo will be built in week 44:icon_thumright: They told me that they had lots of trouble with the italians making the order come through, because they dont make Bravo Dynamic in Maranello red:( But the Norwegian importer had after a weeks fight or so got them to make a dynamic in Mranello red just for me:icon_thumleft: So chances are mine will be the only Maranello red dynamic in the world:D Maranello red is supposed to only be on sport versions:)

At this stage I am very happy with the dealer:icon_thumright:

[VilleV]

Sounds exotic! Only one in the world. Not many can say that about their car! Is this maranello red same as on Bravo T-jet sport 155hp then? A kind of darker shade of red.

[wreckmaster]

Sounds exotic! Only one in the world. Not many can say that about their car! Is this maranello red same as on Bravo T-jet sport 155hp then? A kind of darker shade of red.

Looks like the same color:icon_thumleft: Well about the only one in the world, I can atleast pretend it islol But I guess if they make one for me, there is probably others out there also:( And who sees the difference between a dynamic and a sport? Probably noone. But it is cool to think aboutlol

[VilleV]

Its a nice colour! I think you fancy a red Fiat after all...;) When can you expect the car to arrive?

[wreckmaster]

Its a nice colour! I think you fancy a red Fiat after all...;) When can you expect the car to arrive?

A real man has got to have at least one red Italian car:icon_thumleft:Dont you agree Ville:icon_thumright:

[VilleV]

Definitely!lol

[wreckmaster]

Still estimated delivery about 1 december:icon_thumleft:

[Pethead]

A real man has got to have at least one red Italian car:icon_thumleft:Dont you agree Ville:icon_thumright:

I totally agree! My little 500 is a Ferrari because of the red colour and its name "Fitipaldi".It`s italian in both ways!. lol

[wreckmaster]

I totally agree! My little 500 is a Ferrari because of the red colour and its name "Fitipaldi".It`s italian in both ways!. lol

:icon_thumright:

lollollol

[5OO]

They called me from the dealer today:icon_thumleft: My Bravo will be built in week 44:icon_thumright: They told me that they had lots of trouble with the italians making the order come through, because they dont make Bravo Dynamic in Maranello red:( But the Norwegian importer had after a weeks fight or so got them to make a dynamic in Mranello red just for me:icon_thumleft: So chances are mine will be the only Maranello red dynamic in the world:D Maranello red is supposed to only be on sport versions:)

At this stage I am very happy with the dealer:icon_thumright:

Congrats! Make sure you slap a Wreckmaster Special Edition 1/1 Badge on it.

[.Lefteris.]

Congrats! Make sure you slap a Wreckmaster Special Edition 1/1 Badge on it.
X2, I will make a nice one for you my friend wreckmaster as a gift for your new ride! :icon_thumright:

[wreckmaster]

X2, I will make a nice one for you my friend wreckmaster as a gift for your new ride! :icon_thumright:

Thank you Lefteris:icon_thumleft: Would look so cool:icon_thumright:

[.Lefteris.]

Thank you Lefteris:icon_thumleft: Would look so cool:icon_thumright:
:)

[wreckmaster]

Bought winter wheels for the Bravo yesterday, alloys offcourse and studfree kuho tires 205/55-16:icon_thumleft: Bought with more concern on how easy they are to wash than looks really:icon_thumleft:

[VilleV]

Bought with more concern on how easy they are to wash than looks really:icon_thumleft:

Its always a compromise with winter wheels... They look good tho!:icon_thumleft: Im only sorry I didnt go for studfree tires! The tire noise with studs is quite horrible.

[.Lefteris.]

:super:

[Guttemamma]

I can not wait to get the new car :D

[wreckmaster]

I spoke to the dealer today, and it looks like ( if everything goes as planned) Guttemamma will get her new car on Friday 13th :eek:of November...
If not things goes as planned the following week:icon_thumleft:

[.Lefteris.]

:icon_thumright:

[Animo]

I can not wait to get the new car :D

:icon_thumleft::icon_thumleft::icon_thumleft::icon _thumleft::icon_thumleft::icon_thumleft:

[Guttemamma]

Friday, 13th of november :eeeeek:
:yahoo:
:399:

[.Lefteris.]

:icon_thumright: lol :icon_thumleft:

[wreckmaster]

Friday, 13th of november :eeeeek:
:yahoo:
:399:


It will be one hell of a car

lol

[Cadbury]

And another one to clean lol

[wreckmaster]

And another one to clean lol

Cant wait to get my hands on it so it can get a couple of coats of Swissvax Scuderia, handmade for italian paints:icon_thumright:

[.Lefteris.]

Cant wait to get my hands on it so it can get a couple of coats of Swissvax Scuderia, handmade for italian paints:icon_thumright:
:icon_thumright:

[wreckmaster]

I just dont understand why you Lefteris dont have this wax for your beautiful italian cars:) They even make a special wax for Porches!

lol

[.Lefteris.]

I just dont understand why you Lefteris dont have this wax for your beautiful italian cars:) They even make a special wax for Porches!

lol

I will buy some for my new toy and the Abarth, the F car will go tomorrow to a new home, after all those months and I cant enjoy it, the roads here are very bad and because I live at the center of Athens I cant get it out and drive it like it should be and this is a big problem, I had put only 500km on it ....

[VilleV]

What a shame! But I do understand you, there´s no point keeping a car like that in the garage! It needs to be driven!

[wreckmaster]

What a shame! But I do understand you, there´s no point keeping a car like that in the garage! It needs to be driven!

X2!!

But it is a really beautiful car:icon_thumright:

Changing it for an american car???:(

[.Lefteris.]

On the real world, my world any way, yes, thats all it is, a really beautiful car!
Am not changing it for an american car, it was for sale any way and before I start looking for the Challenger but at the end am sure hat I will enjoy more the Challenger then the F car, if not, no problem, I will sale the Challenger and buy something else, but if I go back to supercars, that will be a 911 turbo again, the every day super car lol

[VilleV]

It has been said so many times that the 911 is the only supercar you can really use every day that it must be true!

[.Lefteris.]

It has been said so many times that the 911 is the only supercar you can really use every day that it must be true!
as you know I had one and this is 100%, true and now after the Fcar ownership I can say that is 200% true

[VilleV]

:icon_thumright:

[wreckmaster]

I belive the challenger will be a grat car for you Lefteris:icon_thumleft: It is after all a car which is made for everyday use, but still is fast enough for most people:icon_thumright:

[.Lefteris.]

:)

[Stormi]

It will be one hell of a car

lol

Tomorrow then ... :cool:

[VilleV]

Wonder if Wreckmaster is getting any sleep tonight... Butterflies all over his stomach!:cool2::roflmfao:

[Stormi]

I also know the feeling of waiting the car ...

If he can´t sleep tonight, I´m sure he can tomorrow biggrin2

[.Lefteris.]

lol

[wreckmaster]

Dealer called me this morning! At noon on Saturday I will get my new Fiat Bravo 1,6 Pur02! He even sent me a MMS of it! Looking good in Maranello Red! :)

[Stormi]

:icon_thumright: ... :icon_thumleft:

[Guttemamma]

It look so nice :icon_thumleft:

:yahoo:

[Stormi]

Waiting for the pics then :)

[Guttemamma]

Waiting for the pics then :)

I m sure that Wrecky will put in the mms picture when he come home from work :icon_thumright:

[.Lefteris.]

:icon_worthless:

[wreckmaster]

Here you go:icon_thumleft:

[VilleV]

That is a really nice looking colour!!:cool: Fits the bravo great! Congratulations on your new car Wrecks and Guttemamma! Wonder if your 500 is getting out of the garage anymore for a while.

[Guttemamma]

Here you go:icon_thumleft:

:dance::peace::dance:

[wreckmaster]

That is a really nice looking colour!!:cool: Fits the bravo great! Congratulations on your new car Wrecks and Guttemamma! Wonder if your 500 is getting out of the garage anymore for a while.


The garage space is reserved for the 500 and the Neckarlol But there is a fair chance the 500 will spend some more quality time in it`s cozy garage together with his older uncle from Germanylollol

[Stormi]

Conratulations to you both :icon_thumleft:

Only Maranello Red Bravo PurO2 in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish you pleasent moments with the new one, and do enjoy every
minute of it !

Love the spoiler also ! It´s a Lineaccessori, a bit larger than Sport one
has :cool:

[wreckmaster]

Conratulations to you both :icon_thumleft:

Only Maranello Red Bravo PurO2 in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish you pleasent moments with the new one, and do enjoy every
minute of it !

Love the spoiler also ! It´s a Lineaccessori, a bit larger than Sport one
has :cool:

Just curious about something since you mentioned pleasent moments, and I tought I would ask you since you already have a Bravo:) How is the space in the back/ rear seats?:rolleyes:

lollol

Aha, tought it was the same spoiler as the sport has got:icon_thumleft:

[Stormi]

You don´t have to put the back seat down ... plenty of space ... to
enjoy ... what ever is needed ... to do ... ... ... ... ...

lol

[wreckmaster]

You don´t have to put the back seat down ... plenty of space ... to
enjoy ... what ever is needed ... to do ... ... ... ... ...

lol

:super::good_post::roflmfao:












Guttemamma just wait for Saturday:cool2::blooming_rose:

[Guttemamma]

You don´t have to put the back seat down ... plenty of space ... to
enjoy ... what ever is needed ... to do ... ... ... ... ...

lol

:gone:

:icon_salut:



lol

[Cadbury]

Hmmm.... me thinks you need a babysitter lol

[.Lefteris.]

:congrats:
Now I have to make you this special decals ... :duh:

Looks great my friend :icon_thumright: lol :icon_thumleft:

[.Lefteris.]

:gone:

:icon_salut:



lol
classic! biggrin2

[Guttemamma]

Hmmm.... me thinks you need a babysitter lol

My parents in law shold have the kids from saturday 11.30 am. to sunday ;)

Wrecky and I are going out and have party with my employees ;)

[.Lefteris.]

My parents in law shold have the kids from saturday 11.30 am. to sunday ;)

Wrecky and I are going out and have party with my employees ;)
Have fun you two! :icon_thumright:

[Guttemamma]

Have fun you two! :icon_thumright:

:icon_thumright:

[5OO]

Here you go:icon_thumleft:

Very nice! Congrats!

If the Bravo is a rockin' dont come a knockin! :sex_:

[wreckmaster]

Very nice! Congrats!

If the Bravo is a rockin' dont come a knockin! :sex_:

:thanks2:





:roflmfao:

[Animo]

Very nice! Congrats!

If the Bravo is a rockin' dont come a knockin! :sex_:

:roflmfao:

[wreckmaster]

And now it snows:( I have washed the Astra and made it ready for trading inn earlier today.... It snows very MUCH.. In just an hour or so it has fallen down a 3-4cm.. Lots of accidents because of the sudden snow. Not a good thing to collect a new car tomorrow if this continues, alltough the forcast says rain tomorrow:( I dont want to make it dirty as soon as it comes out of the store:(:(

[5OO]

And now it snows:( I have washed the Astra and made it ready for trading inn earlier today.... It snows very MUCH.. In just an hour or so it has fallen down a 3-4cm.. Lots of accidents because of the sudden snow. Not a good thing to collect a new car tomorrow if this continues, alltough the forcast says rain tomorrow:( I dont want to make it dirty as soon as it comes out of the store:(:(

Good luck. You should call your co-worker and have them escort you with the ambulance sirens and lights going. So the Bravo makes it home safe.

[wreckmaster]

Good luck. You should call your co-worker and have them escort you with the ambulance sirens and lights going. So the Bravo makes it home safe.

I might dolollol I wish I where in California too right now:( It`s been far too long since I last where there:)

[5OO]

I might dolollol I wish I where in California too right now:( It`s been far too long since I last where there:)

I need to make my 1st trip to Europe too. But it would cut directly into my 500 savings.lol

[Guttemamma]

Now we have a brand new Fiat Bravo in our garden biggrin2

I think Thomas will come with some new photos, when he is finished wiewing the new car :rolleyes: lol

[Stormi]

So, has the Bravo arrived :)

[.Lefteris.]

Now we have a brand new Fiat Bravo in our garden biggrin2

I think Thomas will come with some new photos, when he is finished wiewing the new car :rolleyes: lol
:super:

[wreckmaster]

Here you go, I started a D-day thread for it:icon_thumleft:

http://www.500fans.com/showthread.php?t=885